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PissedRSDIntern » July 2014

I'm here to expose these fuckers, I am not gonna make this super long but here is a rundown of the shit I uncovered during my time with these scammers.

-they fake roughly about 50-70% of their Hotseat footage, and I mean ALL the instructors, including Todd with his latest Hotseat footage. Tyler and Papa got a lot of L.A. connection via clubs promoters, Acquaintances and various modeling and acting agencies, a lot of times they don't have to even pay these girls much if anything at all. They will even implant girls during bootcamps for filming.

-Tyler himself personally told me his count is under 50, a good portion from social circle. What a dumbass.

-Julien is a sociopath, who take pleasure in abusing women, does cocaine somewhat moderately. He can never keep a stable girl friend. He gets laid nowhere near as much as Tyler makes it out to be.

-Alex takes anti psychotics/depressants and tried to kill himself on multiple occasions, he tried to crash his car and recently has contemplated hanging himself.

-Jeff as you probably all know fucks ugs and fatties, he actually does not get laid very often, infact none of the instructors do, considering the amount these guys go out. He is a delusionsal asshole that thinks the whales he hits on are "turbos". He is verbally abusive to the students on bootcamps and threatens to punch them.


they talk
TONS of shit behind their students/followers backs.They called them faggots for actually believing their horse shit, and laugh about all the money their scamming from them, I shit you not .

I Think most of them have not even hit 100 lay tbh, except for maybe Alex and Julien. they pretty much all just spam approach shit and get numbers at best. It's very rare they get lays or pulls.

If you want further details, just ask.

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deathbynorwood » August 2014

Did you get paid as an intern?

What are the requirements?

Even if you didnt get paid as an intern you could probably ask for the students emails and then pitch them your own ebook or bootcamp course. Seems like a pretty easy way to make some extra cash.

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PissedRSDIntern » August 2014

deathbynorwood wrote:Did you get paid as an intern?

What are the requirements?

Even if you didnt get paid as an intern you could probably ask for the students emails and then pitch them your own ebook or bootcamp course. Seems like a pretty easy way to make some extra cash.


1. Nope you don't get paid.

2. you gotta being willing to work 10hrs mimum per week. be willing to to be their little bitch for a minimum of 3months, be warned they can treat you like dogshit.

you gotta apply here

http://www.realsocialdynamics.com/employment.asp

Don't try to bring a hidden cam of your own to try to expose them, you will be checked, especially when their doing filming of their own.

3. interns do not get access to student emails.

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deathbynorwood » August 2014

Are there any perks? Do you ever get to sit in the VIP section with the "gurus" ? Did you get laid?

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deathbynorwood wrote:Are there any perks? Do you ever get to sit in the VIP section with the "gurus" ? Did you get laid?


yeah I did, 5 times,unlike the tard instructors. No real perks, unless you consider being lacky to a cult a perk. You do have debriefs and meetings with the instructors, that's basically how I found out all this shit out. they have no problems telling you this shit behind closed door, because they know you can't get video proof. A lot of people that intern are timid incel types, that's why no one speaks up about this stuff. they them selfs kinda get caught up in the cult mentality, Owen is really good brainwashing you into "believing in the process.", if you are weak minded.

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PissedRSDIntern » August 2014

pikachu wrote:tell us more about Owen and the woman he's currently posing with as his gf


His current girl friend is actually pretty hot believe it or not. she is a big titted brunette. The thing is Tyler lies about he got her. He makes up some story how he had to game her for 10 hours and plow through all her shit tests. They never met though cold approach, it it was thourgh social circle. She already knew he was rich and just uses him for his money. Alex told told me this. He actually does not like Tyler much and only puts up with him because he get paid. He talks so much mad shit about him when he drunk it's hilarious.

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PUA4Life » August 2014

Damn, this is why I come here.

Do the RSD instructors actually believe what they say though, or is it all about sucking people into PUA long-term?
Are they all just spam approaching and running numbers game? Do they do any of the things they teach?
How much money are these guys making?
Have you seen any students pull during a bootcamp?

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PUA4Life wrote:Damn, this is why I come here.

Do the RSD instructors actually believe what they say though, or is it all about sucking people into PUA long-term?
Are they all just spam approaching and running numbers game? Do they do any of the things they teach?
How much money are these guys making?
Have you seen any students pull during a bootcamp?


1. No not really, with exception of they few concepts like "state", most of it is just filler so they always have content to spew out. Infact Owen acknowledges that LMS is superior to "game" but doesn't publicly state because he know his followers will keep coming back for more and he would lose money.

2. For the most part they do just play the the numbers game and spam approach. They do a lot of flash game and get numbers to make people think they are big time player, when it's really the furthest thing from the truth. They practice what they preach, only problem is most of it is flat out Bullhit and they know it.

3.if I had guess, I would say maybe 4-5 million.

4. Yes, but it was extremely rare. Students that do pull are usually goodlooking/tall and they usually only get average girls. They had a model looking student on bootcamp one time and he got laid three nights in a row and Tyler was telling him that he is such a fast learner and had stellar game, lmao.

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incelmike » August 2014

So, what is tyler and papa's net worth?

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pikachu wrote:
PissedRSDIntern wrote:Alex told told me this. He actually does not like Tyler much and only puts up with him because he get paid. He talks so much mad shit about him when he drunk it's hilarious.


pls tell us more of the stories Alex shares


He talked about when he first met Tyler, that the little ginger was getting rejected the little whole night. he said Tyler was delusional that he called him a chode for not being impressed and How he was completely pimpin the club.This was back when Tyler was fat and had fatty long hair. Only joined RSD is because he got offered a good some of money.

One night when he was so fuckin drunk, he got a picture of Tyler on phone and started going up women with the picture saying that Tyler was his gay lover and they fuck each others assholes with carrots. One woman was so appalled that she slapped him across the face. He almost got his ass beat by white knights. security broke it up and He got kicked out the club.

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incelmike wrote:So, what is tyler and papa's net worth?


probably a couple million a piece, Never asked they net worth.

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PissedRSDIntern wrote:
pikachu wrote:
pls tell us more of the stories Alex shares


He talked about when he first met Tyler, that the little ginger was getting rejected the little whole night. he said Tyler was delusional that he called him a chode for not being impressed and How he was completely pimpin the club.This was back when Tyler was fat and had fatty long hair. Only joined RSD is because he got offered a good some of money.

One night when he was so fuckin drunk, he got a picture of Tyler on phone and started going up women with the picture saying that Tyler was his gay lover and they fuck each others assholes with carrots. One woman was so appalled that she slapped him across the face. He almost got his ass beat by white knights. security broke it up and He got kicked out the club.


AHAHAHAHAHA.

My questions:

1) What are their plans for future?
2) How does Julien behind the scenes behave?
3) Why did you resign ?

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pikachu wrote:
PissedRSDIntern wrote:One night when he was so fuckin drunk, he got a picture of Tyler on phone and started going up women with the picture saying that Tyler was his gay lover and they fuck each others assholes with carrots. One woman was so appalled that she slapped him across the face. He almost got his ass beat by white knights. security broke it up and He got kicked out the club.


what a slayer

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moar pls


that's it in terms of stories, I was never near Alex that much because he runs a lot of his programs outside America. I night gamed with him a couple times, he actually decent and probably the only one that gets laid somewhat regularly. I asked him his laycount he said he lost count.

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[quote="Humiliated Sensei"][quote="PissedRSDIntern"]

He talked about when he first met Tyler, that the little ginger was getting rejected the little whole night. he said Tyler was delusional that he called him a chode for not being impressed and How he was completely pimpin the club.This was back when Tyler was fat and had fatty long hair. Only joined RSD is because he got offered a good some of money.

One night when he was so fuckin drunk, he got a picture of Tyler on phone and started going up women with the picture saying that Tyler was his gay lover and they fuck each others assholes with carrots. One woman was so appalled that she slapped him across the face. He almost got his ass beat by white knights. security broke it up and He got kicked out the club.[/quote]

AHAHAHAHAHA.

My questions:

1) What are their plans for future?
2) How does Julien behind the scenes behave?
3) Why did you resign ?[/quote]


1. Pretty much the same a now as far as I know. Tyler is gonna retire by the end of the year.

2. He is real shy and a video game nerd. He is also a sociopathic miysognist. The main reason he got into pickup was because he got rejected a lot when he younger and somehow thinks this is a way to get back at them. He has Gotten kicked out of clubs for harassing women and calling them dog, slut, cunt, biting them etc....

he gets laid no where near as much as his YouTube's and his hotseats suggest. He fakes some pull and going home scenes.

3. I resigned because I saw how much of a scam they are, Just a bunch of clowns pretending to be players. they actually asked if I wanted to be a long term assistant I declined.

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Lombardo » August 2014

Would be nice if you could somehow prove you worked as an RSD intern.

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Lombardo wrote:Would be nice if you could somehow prove you worked as an RSD intern.


Unfortunately they check to make sure you don't have any sorta of hidden camera to expose them. So I really can't prove much. but I'm being 100% honest.

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This is fucking gold if its true.

I have a question,what do they say about their customers behind their backs? Like do they legit think that 'game' is real or do they know its a giant scam?

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PissedRSDIntern wrote:
Lombardo wrote:Would be nice if you could somehow prove you worked as an RSD intern.


Unfortunately they check to make sure you don't have any sorta of hidden camera to expose them. So I really can't prove much. but I'm being 100% honest.


Don't you have any documents from them you can scan? Or at least a screenshot of a legit looking email they sent you?
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OmegaKV wrote:Don't you have any documents from them you can scan? Or at least a screenshot of a legit looking email they sent you?


THIS

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[quote="Reformation"]This is fucking gold if its true.

I have a question,what do they say about their customers behind their backs? Like do they legit think that 'game' is real or do they know its a giant scam?[/quote

They call them gullible faggots, chodes,etc....

They have talked so much shit about their students its hard to keep
track but a couple times stand out.

Tyler flat out said that the only thing bootcamps do for students is make him rich and how his students are chodley fucktards for beliveing his shit. He himself knows lms is superior to game. Tyler even mocked his students on bootcamp saying things like "YOU SUCK SHIT YA CHODE, NOW GTFO BACK IN THERE FAGGOT, HEEHAAAHOOO", "YOUR GAME IS A -10,I THINK YOUR GONNA STAY A VIRGIN TILL YOU DIE." he has made students cry a couple times, because he had them appraoch girls who flat Reject them multiple times. I even had to save a student from getting his ass whooped because Tyler was to much of a coward to much to break it up because The guy was jacked and black.

I swear I wanted to bash his skull in for treating his students like that. It fuckin disgusts me.

Julien has called students hopless for thinking looks dont matter and that They would be better off banging hookers because They aré to ugly for cold appraoch. He himself admits that if he was not 6'2 his results would be dismal. Yet he tells students looks don matter that so ever.

They only guy that dont talk shit is todd. He is the only caring coach in that group of clowns and sociopaths.
Infact, alot of what he teaches is practical and very outergame based and not a bunch of vague theory. He himself thinks "state" is kinda stupid.

They dont really think "game" is that effective and admit its largely

a numbers game.

Jeffy told me its about hittin up them numbers Till you luck up on ass.

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OmegaKV wrote:
PissedRSDIntern wrote:
Unfortunately they check to make sure you don't have any sorta of hidden camera to expose them. So I really can't prove much. but I'm being 100% honest.


Don't you have any documents from them you can scan? Or at least a screenshot of a legit looking email they sent you?


Nope, if I did it would have been
the first thing i posted. All the stuff i mentioned was Stuff i overheard, saw or was personally told. Any documents äre Personally written by instructors themselves, They are very good at making sure They dont get exposed.

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short bald ugly » August 2014

Ahahahahahahahaha!!

I have a similar kind of story to tell. This reminds me of the time I returned to a different but very similar PUA company to RSD as a former student turned guest fill-in instructor, and I got to see through all the shit that goes on behind the scenes with the other instructors who were on the company's payroll.

I took two guys out into the field - guys who had turned over thousands of dollars to learn how to pick-up women by cold approaching them. One of them was a man in his late 30s, the other a young pretty faced rich kid. I took out the guy in his late 30s and he got rejections with every approach he made. The pretty faced young rich kid got an instant lunch date with the first girl he approached during the day when he was out with me as his instructor. It had nothing to do with their "skills" or their "game", but it did have everything to do with their respective age and looks and how old they looked.

Yes, I have also done something similar to the OP, but only as a guest instructor for free for 2 days. And the shit those guys talk about behind the students back was incredible. They know who was going to do well and who was not and it all seemed to come back to who the best looking of the students were. I shudder to think that I myself was once a paying student of this PUA company, and they probably talked the same shit about me behind my back.

I thought they were totally immoral and scamming their students out of money. I even realised I got scammed out of my money through this PUA company. So I refused to be a guest fill in instructor for them when they needed one after I took those guys out to cold approach over those 2 days.

I believe I still have the documents to show I was a guest instructor for the 2 days. If anyone wants proof I'm happy to scan them and attach them here, or create a new thread to do so.

Oh, and none of these payed instructors this company had on their books were good with women, none of them even got phone numbers from any girls they approached, and they really couldn't demonstrate anything to their students other than the spam approach method and hope that one will bite your bait. Their youtube videos were likely all fake as well.
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short bald ugly wrote:Ahahahahahahahaha!!

I have a similar kind of story to tell. This reminds me of the time I returned to a different but very similar PUA company to RSD as a former student turned guest fill-in instructor, and I got to see through all the shit that goes on behind the scenes with the other instructors who were on the company's payroll.

I took two guys out into the field - guys who had turned over thousands of dollars to learn how to pick-up women by cold approaching them. One of them was a man in his late 30s, the other a young pretty faced rich kid. I took out the guy in his late 30s and he got rejections with every approach he made. The pretty faced young rich kid got an instant lunch date with the first girl he approached during the day when he was out with me as his instructor. It had nothing to do with their "skills" or their "game", but it did have everything to do with their respective age and looks and how old they looked.

Yes, I have also done something similar to the OP, but only as a guest instructor for free for 2 days. And the shit those guys talk about behind the students back was incredible. They know who was going to do well and who was not and it all seemed to come back to who the best looking of the students were. I shudder to think that I myself was once a paying student of this PUA company, and they probably talked the same shit about me behind my back.

I thought they were totally immoral and scamming their students out of money. I even realised I got scammed out of my money through this PUA company. So I refused to be a guest fill in instructor for them when they needed one after I took those guys out to cold approach over those 2 days.

I believe I still have the documents to show I was a guest instructor for the 2 days. If anyone wants proof I'm happy to scan them and attach them here, or create a new thread to do so.

Oh, and none of these payed instructors this company had on their books were good with women, none of them even got phone numbers from any girls they approached, and they really couldn't demonstrate anything to their students other than the spam approach method and hope that one will bite your bait. Their youtube videos were likely all fake as well.



which company?

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short bald ugly wrote:I believe I still have the documents to show I was a guest instructor for the 2 days. If anyone wants proof I'm happy to scan them and attach them here


Do it.

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As much as Id love this to be true, its not, he is lying, unfortunately. If he really was an intern he would by no doubt have some kind of proof to show for it, some emails between him and rsd people, atleast SOMETHING, but he dont.

Im all for exposing puas, but I dont really see the point of lying. Want some internet attention?

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MichaelS wrote:As much as Id love this to be true, its not, he is lying, unfortunately. If he really was an intern he would by no doubt have some kind of proof to show for it, some emails between him and rsd people, atleast SOMETHING, but he dont.

Im all for exposing puas, but I dont really see the point of lying. Want some internet attention?


Yeah seems that way. Also a lot of whats been said has already been said by other people so theres nothing 'new' here.

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Reformation wrote:
MichaelS wrote:As much as Id love this to be true, its not, he is lying, unfortunately. If he really was an intern he would by no doubt have some kind of proof to show for it, some emails between him and rsd people, atleast SOMETHING, but he dont.

Im all for exposing puas, but I dont really see the point of lying. Want some internet attention?


Yeah seems that way. Also a lot of whats been said has already been said by other people so theres nothing 'new' here.


Yes, unfortunately.

OP I would LOVE it so much if u could bring evidence to this, cause if u can RSD are fucking done, we could spread this shit like wildife if we had proof.

But as for now? no nothing, just a nice story that me myself can come up with in 10minutes

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concernedaboutscam » August 2014

how do we spread this shit like wild fire though?

it seems like the only way we can make people aware of how fraudulent a PUA or group is by making a post appear on the first page of google so whenever someone looks them up they can see it. Outside of that, I have no idea how we can really do much of anything to these scammers.

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concernedaboutscam wrote:how do we spread this shit like wild fire though?

it seems like the only way we can make people aware of how fraudulent a PUA or group is by making a post appear on the first page of google so whenever someone looks them up they can see it. Outside of that, I have no idea how we can really do much of anything to these scammers.


Easy, im not going to say how in this post but it would be very very simple. If we get the evidence, then the rest will follow dont worry about that.

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Im afraid this is just somebody's alt here. Easy to see whose:

Has anyone here ever paid for any of RSD's products or bootcamps?

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