Whites of Asia: Ainu Tocharian ruled by Japanese Chinese

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The Ainu and their ancestors Emishi were ruled by Japanese for roughly 1300 years.
The Tocharian and their descendants Uyghurs were ruled by Chinese and others Asians for 500 years.

The Japanese looked upon the Ainu as hairy barbarians who were primitive and uncivilized. The Chinese also looked the Tocharians as barbarians, nomadic, weak and primitive. Both of their territory are now part of China and Japan although for most of history they were not.


Ainu

The Ainu look white or Caucasian. although many claim they look like white aborigines/Australoid. In fact genetics even claim they are more closer to Southeast Asian Mongoloid rather than to Caucasoid.

Their territories lived in Hokkaido, Northern Honshu, south Sakhalin, Kuril islands. They were conquered by Japanese from 700 AD to 2015 AD today. Some Japanese upper class are partial descendants of these people.

According to Dennis Johnson :Japanese settlers commonly took Ainu women as sexual slaves. And the upper class also took Ainu as concubine and wives. Many Samurai also took Ainu women as wives.


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In 8th century, there was war between the Emishi ( Tohoku Ainu) and Japanese . The Emishi eventually lost to the Japanese and had all their northern lands conquered and incorporated into the Japanese state.

During the Muromachi period (1336–1573) Ainu rebelled against Japanese influence and control of the island but ended in failure.

During the Tokugawa period (1600–1868) the Japanese ruled the southern part of Ainu lands. Japanese introduced diseases making the Ainu population decrease from 80,000 to 16,000.

In 1868 - 2015, Hokkaido had been incorporated into Japanese lands.

Ainu population dropped significantly during these years of Matsumae and shogunate rule. In 1807, officials estimated the total population of Hokkaido Ainu at 26,256. Observations made by Matsuura Takeshiro, for example, illustrate concretely the dramatic decline of Ainu populations caused by epidemic diseases. 47 years later that number was reduced to 17,810, a 32% decline.[11]

The Ainu in the 14th century were much more populous before invasions from the Japanese. Some Ainu oral stories, and the Matsumae clan's documents, recall and record several severe battles between the Ainu people and the invaders. After losing several battles, the Ainu people were enslaved.[12]

Metropolitan magazine reported, "Many Ainu were forced to work, essentially as slaves, for Wajin (ethnic Japanese), resulting in the breakup of families and the introduction of smallpox, measles, cholera and tuberculosis into their community. In 1869, the new Meiji government renamed Ezo as Hokkaido and unilaterally incorporated it into Japan. It banned the Ainu language, took Ainu land away, and prohibited salmon fishing and deer hunting."[citation needed] They were regarded as 'extremely inferior races', as one Diet Member had expressed it in 1907 (Hokkaido Utari Kyokai 19902190).

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Tocharians

The Tocharians were Indo-European Iranic people and their descendants was the Uyghurs who are a mixture of Turkic and Iranic. Their Caucasian genetic shows they are medium between European and Middle easterners.

They live in Xinjiang, Tarim Basin. Which is Central Asia bothering Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and historically had nothing to do with China. In fact for China to get through there they must first pass through North Tibet ( now Qinghai ).

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They were first conquered by Xiongnu, than by Chinese, than by Tibetan, than by other Asian empires. And finally by Turkic Asian Uyghurs who conquered them and assimilated their people with Turkic language.

"The Uyghur Empire was originally located in Mongolia and conquered the Tocharian tribes in Xinjiang. Tocharians such as Kroran have been shown by archaeological findings to appear phenotypically similar to northern Europeans, whereas the Orkhon Uyghur people were clearly Mongolians. The two groups of people subsequently mixed in Xinjiang to become one population, the present Uyghurs. "

The recorded history of the area now known as Xinjiang dates to the 2nd millennium BC. There have been many empires, primarily Han Chinese, Turkic, and Mongolic, that have ruled over the region, including the Yuezhi, Xiongnu, Han dynasty, Sixteen Kingdoms of the Jin dynasty (Former Liang, Former Qin, Later Liang, and Western Liáng), Tang dynasty, Uyghur Khaganate, Kara-Khanid Khanate, Qara Khitai, Mongol Empire, Yuan dynasty, Chagatai Khanate, Yarkent Khanate, Dzungar Khanate, and Qing dynasty. Xinjiang was previously known as "Xiyu" (西域), under the Han dynasty, which drove the Xiongnu empire out of the region in 60 BCE in an effort to secure the profitable Silk Road,[1] but was renamed Xinjiang (新疆, meaning "new frontier") when the region was reconquered by the Manchu-led Qing dynasty in 1759. Xinjiang is now a part of the People's Republic of China, having been so since its founding year of 1949.


In 1949, Mao Zedong invaded this region and incorporated into Chinese lands. It was also renamed.

Uyghurs with mostly Torcharian blood.
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Last edited by Cristobal on Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:43 pm, edited 3 times in total.

Tocharians were definitely white. They practiced Buddhism and spoke an Indo-European language. Also the Turks exterminated them not the Chinese.

Oh fun fact for you Asiancels the maternal DNA of them were Asian female. The paternal DNA was R1a1 white male Y chromosome. Asian women desiring white men is nothing new! First Nation of weaboos.
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Ainu/Tocharians are/were caucasoid and (in the case of Tocharians) aryan. But they are not white.

John Rambo, wrote:Tocharians were definitely white. They practiced Buddhism and spoke an Indo-European language. Also the Turks exterminated them not the Chinese.

Oh fun fact for you Asiancels the maternal DNA of them were Asian female. The paternal DNA was R1a1 white male Y chromosome. Asian women desiring white men is nothing new! First Nation of weaboos.



Actually their maternal MtDNA is 42.6% Caucasian women.



42.6% out of 11 million Uyghurs are descendants of Caucasian women mating with Asian men and Asian mixed men

Cristobal wrote:
John Rambo, wrote:Tocharians were definitely white. They practiced Buddhism and spoke an Indo-European language. Also the Turks exterminated them not the Chinese.

Oh fun fact for you Asiancels the maternal DNA of them were Asian female. The paternal DNA was R1a1 white male Y chromosome. Asian women desiring white men is nothing new! First Nation of weaboos.



Actually their maternal MtDNA is 42.6% Caucasian women.



42.6% out of 11 million Uyghurs are descendants of Caucasian women mating with Asian men and Asian mixed men


They raped all the Eurasian daughters and whites women.

Tocharians were westasian/middleeastern not ''white''atleast not european.uness ou consider afghans and tajiks as white,snce that is their closest relative.

as for ainus they were protomongoloids akin to native american and polynesian groups but even earlier,they were basically cold adapted australoids,and they existed before the white or even caucasoid race came to fruitition in later migration episodes.caucasoids are a result of protomongoloid like populations movng west and mating with khoisanid humans out of africa,and then these brown caucasoids later went into europe and became white people .

neomongoloids are also a result of protomongoloids becoming paedomorphic in the ice age.

so no,ainus,natives and polynesians are nether caucasoid or mongoloid but forefathers of both groups and a direct son of the australoid race adapting to the cold weather .
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According to this genetic haplogroup study.


Uyghurs

have 32% Asian male ancestor and 43% White female ancestors. 2% South Asian female ancestors.

have 62% White male ancestors and 55% Asian female ancestors. 6% South Asian male ancestors

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Interracial marriage predominately Asian men Mongoloid Y-DNA and white women Caucasoid mtDNA


Kazakhs
Crimean Tatars
Uzbeks Afghan
Hazara
Mongolians
Buryats
Kalmyks

Interracial marriage predominately Caucasian men Caucasoid Y-DNA and asian women Mongoloid mtDNA

Kyrgyz
Uzbek
Uyghur
Nogais
Turkish
Turkmen.
Altay
Tajik
Karakalpak


However since every Uyghur today is mixed blood that means there is no pure DNA.


Uyghurs are result of 3,520,000 Asian men mating with white women. But also result of 6,152,000 white men mating with Asian women


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Last edited by Cristobal on Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

''white''isnt the proper term,they were genetically and phenotypically westasian and southasian.the looked more like mullah omar than david duke.

willymonfret wrote:''white''isnt the proper term,they were genetically and phenotypically westasian and southasian.the looked more like mullah omar than david duke.



Actually you're right.

In my genetic graph: European includes people from North Africans and Middle eastern regions with West Asian, Southwest Asian genetics. This is absolutely wrong.


Even though European, west Asian, North African, Southwest Asian are genetically closer they are still extremely distinct.


Although Uyghurs are mixture of European + Middle easterner


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Gypsies are mixture of European and South Asian and for some reason look Middle eastern.

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Last edited by Cristobal on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

willymonfret wrote:Tocharians were westasian/middleeastern not ''white''atleast not european.uness ou consider afghans and tajiks as white,snce that is their closest relative.

as for ainus they were protomongoloids akin to native american and polynesian groups but even earlier,they were basically cold adapted australoids,and they existed before the white or even caucasoid race came to fruitition in later migration episodes.caucasoids are a result of protomongoloid like populations movng west and mating with khoisanid humans out of africa,and then these brown caucasoids later went into europe and became white people .

neomongoloids are also a result of protomongoloids becoming paedomorphic in the ice age.

so no,ainus,natives and polynesians are nether caucasoid or mongoloid but forefathers of both groups and a direct son of the australoid race adapting to the cold weather .




The craziest thing is dark skin Ainu are compared with the Sri Lankan aborigines known as Veddas. And the shocking thing is that a light skin Veddas (albino) end up looking Ainu or pseudo-caucasian.

Both of them show 0% Caucasian DNA and both of them are isolated people who numbers less than 100,000. Both them are not considered Caucasoid anymore but rather people who just don't look Asian.

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The orange colored is Sri Lanka. They had lived in that island long before the Sinhalese modern day Sri Lankans had came. The Veddas are indeed considered a Australoid race.


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Last edited by Cristobal on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

thats because ainus are cold adapted australoids.so they have a combo of caucasoid,mongoloid and negroid features,similar to their native brethren across the continent.

you cant classify them as either 3 because they are the forefathers in other terms of all races except for negroid and australoid.


same for native americans they share features with all 3 major races so you cant classify them into one box,some tribes will lean more to one than others but they all have mixed features because they are an old race of paleohumans.


those persian nomad groups in xinjiang cluster between westasians and southasians genetically and probabely accumulated some siberian admixture aswell.they werent aryans in the modern sence of the word.

willymonfret wrote:thats because ainus are cold adapted australoids.so they have a combo of caucasoid,mongoloid and negroid features,similar to their native brethren across the continent.

you cant classify them as either 3 because they are the forefathers in other terms of all races except for negroid and australoid.


same for native americans they share features with all 3 major races so you cant classify them into one box,some tribes will lean more to one than others but they all have mixed features because they are an old race of protohumans.


those persian nomad groups in xinjiang cluster between westasians and southasians genetically and probabely accumulated some siberan admixture aswell.they werent aryans in the modern sence of the word.




So how would you classify Ainu? some kind of lighter skinned Veddas/South Asian?. Genetic shows even pure Ainu as completely the same as Asian Mongoloid but their phenotypes are closer to people from South Asia.

This is what they said

" Anthropologist Joseph Powell of the University of New Mexico wrote "...we follow Brace and Hunt (1990) and Turner (1990) in viewing the Ainu as a southeast Asian population derived from early Jomon peoples of Japan, who have their closest biological affinity with south Asians rather than western Eurasian peoples".[44] "





What do you define "white".

For some people being Caucasoid is the same as white.

For some people only Europeans is white

For some people being red hair, blond/blue eyes are white even though I've seen non-European and non-caucasoid people with those eye/hair colors traits such as Australian aborigines, south African negroes, Hmong and even isolated cases of Asians North Korean suffering malnutrition. Chinese from both north and south china, Vietnamese with albinism mutation can show up with blonde hair, blue/green eyes, red hair.



How would you classify these Albino Somalians?

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a few things. do not post Mtdna or Y dna bullshit studies again,look at autosamal DNA its much more telling.


second the post reeks of sensationalism,there were no massive amounts of asian females leaving their men for hair,brown caucasoid men,they most likely hybridized over time and became a single culture .

as for ainus,donot look at haplogroups to determine race...look at skulls.andaman islanders also have haplogroup D wich is very common among asians,do they look eastasian to you?sometimes haplogroups dont change while cranial measurements and other racial things do.there are more asian haplogroups than D,wich is more of a australoid haplogroup and is associatted with australoid admixture,hell koreans on youtube were using it to make fun of chinese and japanese and call them niggers.


no offence btw,your posts are very cool,just clearing up some errors.

skull studies are more accurate than genetic studies,since sometimes new haplogroups arose before physical racial changes manifested themselves,hence why the neomongoloid race looks older genetically than it is when if you look at ancient skulls its only 10,000 or so years old.especially bullshit parental DNA studies,you can be 50% Y -R1a but r1a only compromizing 1% of your entire DNA spectrum,hence why autosamal dna is much more important.



also ainus were evolved australoids.

willymonfret wrote:a few things. do not post Mtdna or Y dna bullshit studies again,look at autosamal DNA its much more telling.


second the post reeks of sensationalism,there were no massive amounts of asian females leaving their men for hair,brown caucasoid men,they most likely hybridized over time and became a single culture .

as for ainus,donot look at haplogroups to determine race...look at skulls.andaman islanders also have haplogroup D wich is very common among asians,do they look eastasian to you?sometimes haplogroups dont change while cranial measurements and other racial things do.there are more asian haplogroups than D,wich is more of a australoid haplogroup and is associatted with australoid admixture,hell koreans on youtube were using it to make fun of chinese and japanese and call them niggers.





no offence btw,your posts are very cool,just clearing up some errors.



Y-DNA and mtDNA can trace our ancestry and even trace back to happened happened 500+5000 years ago. The only problem is that it's no always correct.

The average Uyghur can be from 30% Caucasian in north to 60% Caucasian in south. There is no such thing as pure Caucasian DNA in Uyghurs on neither the Caucasian maternal or paternal. The Chinese historically described them regions as Caucasian and now they call them mix breeds.


Mongol invaded and intermarried with million of caucasian women and people.

Did you know what the Chinese recorded? they said the people of Central Asia change demographically. The Chinese travelers during Southern Song Dynasty said the people of Central Asia were overwhelmingly Caucasian but after the Turkic and Mongol invasion in 13th century, after 150 years later they said the people look completely different than before.

This is what ancient people from Kazakhs for example look like

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Now this is how they look like.

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willymonfret wrote:
as for ainus,donot look at haplogroups to determine race...look at skulls.andaman islanders also have haplogroup D wich is very common among asians,do they look eastasian to you?sometimes haplogroups dont change while cranial measurements and other racial things do.there are more asian haplogroups than D,wich is more of a australoid haplogroup and is associatted with australoid admixture,hell koreans on youtube were using it to make fun of chinese and japanese and call them niggers.


no offence btw,your posts are very cool,just clearing up some errors.



Listen, I don't know if haplogroup D is australoid or not in fact the more you talk about it the more confusing it gets.

Because in Southern China and in Burma there are ethnic groups with 70-90% of haplogroup D1 and D3 and look 0% like any Ainu or Adaman islander.

Besides the Adaman islander with 100% D have 100% MtDNA M. Ainu with D have only 17-23% M and Pumi and Tibeto-Burmese have 50% M.


How are all these 3 genetically related and yet look so different at the same time? even autosomal DNA cannot explain these differences

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Pumi and Tibeto-burmese
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haplogroups sometimes dont change while phenotype does(the genes for phenotype manifestation are VERY small) and sometimes its the other way around that haplogroups change while phenotype doesnt,thats why eastasians look older than they are if you look at haplogroups.

willymonfret wrote:haplogroups sometimes dont change while phenotype does(the genes for phenotype manifestation are VERY small) and sometimes its the other way around that haplogroups change while phenotype doesnt,thats why eastasians look older than they are if you look at haplogroups.


Of course haplogroups don't define race but is the closest thing you can get to trace back your origins and ancestry.

Of course haplogroups can be very complicated. Such a group of ancient Turkic people. Who had like 65% R1a and 31% Caucasian mtDNA like W, H, X but their race was a mixture of predominately Mongoloid with only some Caucasian admixture ( such groups predated even before any Turkic expansion or conquest of western world). Such as the males of Pazyryk culture. Most of them males were closer to Mongoloid and were R1a, while all the females were Europoid. This means many of the Uyghurs or people from Central Asia and Middle east and even Europe who have R1a doesn't neccesarily mean it's pure Caucasian origin. Sure the marker would be caucasian but some can be attributed to mix race R1a carriers but are 50-80% Mongoloid physically.


For example.

" Craniological studies of samples from the Pazyryk burials revealed the presence of both Mongoloid and Caucasoid components in this population. [4] quoting G. F. Debets on the physical characteristics of the population in the Pazyryk kurgans, records a mixed population. The men would seem to be part Mongoloid and the women Europoid. [5] "

Here are pure Ainu who looked 100% pseudo-Caucasian. Strangely enough though I had saw gypsies people who look exactly like these 3 men.

Full Ainu women looked just like a old Caucasian women

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Full Ainu young man can pass for a western European, or middle eastern, south Asian

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Full Ainu old man can pass for old south European

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The woman on the bottom right is a goddess.
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The woman on the bottom right is a goddess.



There is many beaultiful Uyghur girls.


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ainu people look like First nation peoples,they dont have white features.they could fit more in colombia than Iran and you know it .

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seems like these groups need more diversity in their little mono cultures

lets flood their country with africans and muslims

willymonfret wrote:all those uyghur women would just be taken as typical Mestizas(the pred amerindian kind) typical to latin america.Harnizas of asia ROFL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H0kID4_9u8



The video of the women you showed look nothing like a Uyghur.

Besides Uyghur people are very diverse. So you can find Uyghurs like these

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most uyghurs look eastasian/Siberian /eskimo followed by a more qiangid type(like li ying zhi)and then native american types and finally mixed types and LAST euro looking types. Im a huge turkophile,speak turkish and listen to uyghur music videos so i know what Im talking about.the only 2 uyghurs i met in real looked eastasian mind you.they dont look that different than Yakonid japanese or northsinid chinese.their westasianess is overrated.

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